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	<description>At the Crossroads of Sound and Meaning</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nio:  Thanks for the tip!

Patricia:  Thanks for your comments.  Accents are a fascinating topic, aren't they?  American English in general preserves some features of Shakespearian English that British English has lost -- for example, Americans consistently pronounce their "r"'s, as Shakespeare did, while most other English dialects drop them in certain contexts.  On the other hand, American English does some things that Shakespeare didn't:  we tend to pronounce "t" like "d" when it appears between vowels, e.g. "water", while other English dialects do not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nio:  Thanks for the tip!</p>
<p>Patricia:  Thanks for your comments.  Accents are a fascinating topic, aren&#8217;t they?  American English in general preserves some features of Shakespearian English that British English has lost &#8212; for example, Americans consistently pronounce their &#8220;r&#8221;&#8217;s, as Shakespeare did, while most other English dialects drop them in certain contexts.  On the other hand, American English does some things that Shakespeare didn&#8217;t:  we tend to pronounce &#8220;t&#8221; like &#8220;d&#8221; when it appears between vowels, e.g. &#8220;water&#8221;, while other English dialects do not.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia - Spiritual Journey Of A Lightworder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia - Spiritual Journey Of A Lightworder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 04:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In some parts of the Appalacian Mountains of North Carolina, back in the early 1970's when I lived in Asheville, there were still small groups of mountain people that spoke Elizabethan English.  I was priviledged once to meet a family that had come down out of the mountains to visit Asheville.  I had heard about them but this was my only meeting with any of them.  It was amazing hearing them speak with thee and thou, just like William Shakepeare.

My husband and I both grew up in northwest Louisiana.  I have been told that I don't have an accent.  My husband passed himself off to college girls as Scandanavian back when we were young and in college.  They believed him because of his accent.  He is the only person in his family that sounds the way he does.  I attribute it to a hearing loss that he got as a child.  

When I hear myself talk on the answering machine, I think it is my sister talking.  Odd, how we sound differently to ourselves.  Have a glorious day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some parts of the Appalacian Mountains of North Carolina, back in the early 1970&#8217;s when I lived in Asheville, there were still small groups of mountain people that spoke Elizabethan English.  I was priviledged once to meet a family that had come down out of the mountains to visit Asheville.  I had heard about them but this was my only meeting with any of them.  It was amazing hearing them speak with thee and thou, just like William Shakepeare.</p>
<p>My husband and I both grew up in northwest Louisiana.  I have been told that I don&#8217;t have an accent.  My husband passed himself off to college girls as Scandanavian back when we were young and in college.  They believed him because of his accent.  He is the only person in his family that sounds the way he does.  I attribute it to a hearing loss that he got as a child.  </p>
<p>When I hear myself talk on the answering machine, I think it is my sister talking.  Odd, how we sound differently to ourselves.  Have a glorious day.</p>
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		<title>By: Nio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 11:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nhpr.org/taxonomy/term/15001" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Exchange&lt;/a&gt; had a show, about a year ago, on how the New Hampshire accent is getting &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; regional, not less so. The reason is because so many people move here from elsewhere, I think. Pretty interesting listen. &lt;a href="http://www.nhpr.org/node/10373" rel="nofollow"&gt;Here's the link.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nhpr.org/taxonomy/term/15001" rel="nofollow">The Exchange</a> had a show, about a year ago, on how the New Hampshire accent is getting <i>more</i> regional, not less so. The reason is because so many people move here from elsewhere, I think. Pretty interesting listen. <a href="http://www.nhpr.org/node/10373" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s the link.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
		<link>http://druidjournal.net/word-of-the-day/2007/07/26/i/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, not really.  Emily grew up in communities with no strong accent.  The kids picked up nothing from their three years in the Buffalo area.  Most of the people we've met in western Mass are not actually &lt;i&gt;from&lt;/i&gt; here, so they have a wide mix of dialects, but mostly General American, so the kids won't pick up much from them...

Although I have heard the children belt out something strongly Southern every once in a while.  I can only assume that I slip back into Suthun when I get angry or something.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not really.  Emily grew up in communities with no strong accent.  The kids picked up nothing from their three years in the Buffalo area.  Most of the people we&#8217;ve met in western Mass are not actually <i>from</i> here, so they have a wide mix of dialects, but mostly General American, so the kids won&#8217;t pick up much from them&#8230;</p>
<p>Although I have heard the children belt out something strongly Southern every once in a while.  I can only assume that I slip back into Suthun when I get angry or something.  <img src='http://druidjournal.net/word-of-the-day/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Nio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder...

Does your wife speak with an accent? How about your kids?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder&#8230;</p>
<p>Does your wife speak with an accent? How about your kids?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nio, I can lay it out pretty briefly:  the accent you have is USUALLY associated with a group of people you aspire (consciously or subconsciously) to identify yourself with.  So in my case, I knew I didn't want to spend the rest of my life in North Carolina; and I subconsciously modeled my speech on General American.  My sister grew up in the same house, but has a &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; strong southern accent, and she lives within twenty miles of the apartment we grew up in.

Having said that:  this is a statistical generalization, and won't hold true for every word you say.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nio, I can lay it out pretty briefly:  the accent you have is USUALLY associated with a group of people you aspire (consciously or subconsciously) to identify yourself with.  So in my case, I knew I didn&#8217;t want to spend the rest of my life in North Carolina; and I subconsciously modeled my speech on General American.  My sister grew up in the same house, but has a <em>very</em> strong southern accent, and she lives within twenty miles of the apartment we grew up in.</p>
<p>Having said that:  this is a statistical generalization, and won&#8217;t hold true for every word you say.  <img src='http://druidjournal.net/word-of-the-day/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Nio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who's actually sat down and spoken with you, I can attest to the lack of southern accent on your part. 

I look forward to the reasons you don't have the accent. I know you explained it to me, but that was a million years ago. And I want to remember it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who&#8217;s actually sat down and spoken with you, I can attest to the lack of southern accent on your part. </p>
<p>I look forward to the reasons you don&#8217;t have the accent. I know you explained it to me, but that was a million years ago. And I want to remember it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; linguistics.  It's what I do for a living...

Slade, this may sound like a stupid question:  do you have a Southern accent?  Is it strong?

Not everyone who grows up in the South has an accent.

I grew up in the South, just like you, and you've heard me speak:  my accent is almost nonexistent.  This wasn't a conscious decision on my part; my accent has always been very weak.  I never knew why until I took sociolinguistics in college.  :-)  (The reason is very long -- I don't have time to lay it out now...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this <i>is</i> linguistics.  It&#8217;s what I do for a living&#8230;</p>
<p>Slade, this may sound like a stupid question:  do you have a Southern accent?  Is it strong?</p>
<p>Not everyone who grows up in the South has an accent.</p>
<p>I grew up in the South, just like you, and you&#8217;ve heard me speak:  my accent is almost nonexistent.  This wasn&#8217;t a conscious decision on my part; my accent has always been very weak.  I never knew why until I took sociolinguistics in college.  <img src='http://druidjournal.net/word-of-the-day/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  (The reason is very long &#8212; I don&#8217;t have time to lay it out now&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Slade &#124; Spiritual Blogging</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slade &#124; Spiritual Blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that eloquent rebuttal!

I love the personal attention -- but wouldn't want to meet you on a YouTube debate!

:-)

PS - especially digging the illustration on this one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that eloquent rebuttal!</p>
<p>I love the personal attention &#8212; but wouldn&#8217;t want to meet you on a YouTube debate!</p>
<p> <img src='http://druidjournal.net/word-of-the-day/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>PS - especially digging the illustration on this one!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you want to get &lt;i&gt;technical&lt;/i&gt;...  :-)

You're absolutely right -- the Southeast has any number of dialects, ranging from the broad, low, slow, almost r-less Mississippian to the high, fast, clipped brogue of the Carolina Tidewater; and the range is spread socially as well as geographically.  In one county in North Carolina that I studied in graduate school, there are three quite distinct dialects -- one spoken by the whites, one by the blacks, and one by the Lumbee Indians.

Nevertheless -- and you saw this coming -- almost all of these dialects have certain features in common, due to their common shared history and extensive contact; and one of those features is the flattening of the dipthong in "I".  Standard English "I" is pronounced as two vowels in one:  starting with "ah" and tightening and rising up to "ee" in one quick, fluid tongue movement.  Southeastern US English has dropped the "ee", leaving just the "ah".  They may pronounce it fast or slow, nasal or oral, maybe a little more like the "a" in &lt;i&gt;bat&lt;/i&gt;, maybe a little more like the "au" in &lt;i&gt;caught&lt;/i&gt;, but always as a single pure vowel sound, rather than a dipthong.

So yeah, I was simplifying -- you caught me!  But the essentials were correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you want to get <i>technical</i>&#8230;  <img src='http://druidjournal.net/word-of-the-day/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right &#8212; the Southeast has any number of dialects, ranging from the broad, low, slow, almost r-less Mississippian to the high, fast, clipped brogue of the Carolina Tidewater; and the range is spread socially as well as geographically.  In one county in North Carolina that I studied in graduate school, there are three quite distinct dialects &#8212; one spoken by the whites, one by the blacks, and one by the Lumbee Indians.</p>
<p>Nevertheless &#8212; and you saw this coming &#8212; almost all of these dialects have certain features in common, due to their common shared history and extensive contact; and one of those features is the flattening of the dipthong in &#8220;I&#8221;.  Standard English &#8220;I&#8221; is pronounced as two vowels in one:  starting with &#8220;ah&#8221; and tightening and rising up to &#8220;ee&#8221; in one quick, fluid tongue movement.  Southeastern US English has dropped the &#8220;ee&#8221;, leaving just the &#8220;ah&#8221;.  They may pronounce it fast or slow, nasal or oral, maybe a little more like the &#8220;a&#8221; in <i>bat</i>, maybe a little more like the &#8220;au&#8221; in <i>caught</i>, but always as a single pure vowel sound, rather than a dipthong.</p>
<p>So yeah, I was simplifying &#8212; you caught me!  But the essentials were correct.</p>
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