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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mohini -- Thanks for your kind words!  Sanskrit is one of linguists&#039; primary sources for Proto Indo European; without it, our knowledge of that ancient language would be much poorer.  Thanks for letting me know about those words!  And I&#039;m really glad you enjoyed my stories!  :-)

Emily -- good guess, but &#039;power&#039; is unrelated.  It&#039;s cognate with &#039;potent&#039;, and goes back to PIE &#039;potis&#039;, meaning &#039;able, capable&#039;.  ...As far as I know, fire and water were the only two elements treated this way.  PIE for air was either &#039;pneu&#039; (root of Greek &#039;pneuma&#039;) or &#039;speis&#039; (root of &#039;spirit&#039;, &#039;aspirate&#039;), but I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s any evidence that the two roots had different spiritual connotations.  The only PIE root for &#039;earth&#039; I can find is &#039;er&#039;, which seems to have been a word for &#039;the world&#039;.  (In the Silmarillion, the word Tolkien says was used to create the universe was &#039;Ea!&#039;, which would be a British pronunciation of &#039;er&#039;.  Coincidence? :-) )

As for the morphological distinction:  if I remember right, the animate / inanimate distinction in PIE seems to have evolved into the masculine / feminine distinction in most of the daughter languages, rather than a mass / count distinction.  Which is a shame, considering how bogus the masc / fem distinction is, compared to the animate / inanimate or mass / count.  :-)  What the *&amp;^* were they thinking??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohini &#8212; Thanks for your kind words!  Sanskrit is one of linguists&#8217; primary sources for Proto Indo European; without it, our knowledge of that ancient language would be much poorer.  Thanks for letting me know about those words!  And I&#8217;m really glad you enjoyed my stories!  <img src='http://druidjournal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Emily &#8212; good guess, but &#8216;power&#8217; is unrelated.  It&#8217;s cognate with &#8216;potent&#8217;, and goes back to PIE &#8216;potis&#8217;, meaning &#8216;able, capable&#8217;.  &#8230;As far as I know, fire and water were the only two elements treated this way.  PIE for air was either &#8216;pneu&#8217; (root of Greek &#8216;pneuma&#8217;) or &#8216;speis&#8217; (root of &#8216;spirit&#8217;, &#8216;aspirate&#8217;), but I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s any evidence that the two roots had different spiritual connotations.  The only PIE root for &#8216;earth&#8217; I can find is &#8216;er&#8217;, which seems to have been a word for &#8216;the world&#8217;.  (In the Silmarillion, the word Tolkien says was used to create the universe was &#8216;Ea!&#8217;, which would be a British pronunciation of &#8216;er&#8217;.  Coincidence? <img src='http://druidjournal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>As for the morphological distinction:  if I remember right, the animate / inanimate distinction in PIE seems to have evolved into the masculine / feminine distinction in most of the daughter languages, rather than a mass / count distinction.  Which is a shame, considering how bogus the masc / fem distinction is, compared to the animate / inanimate or mass / count.  <img src='http://druidjournal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   What the *&#038;^* were they thinking??</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://druidjournal.net/2010/01/29/fire-and-water/comment-page-1/#comment-182093</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the root paewr at all related to our current word &quot;power&quot;?

I find it fascinating that the two mass nouns under discussion both had two roots, ones for the mass of the thing, the other for the fluidity.  How many other mass nouns is that true for?  Could this be why they are treated differently morphologically?

Great stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the root paewr at all related to our current word &#8220;power&#8221;?</p>
<p>I find it fascinating that the two mass nouns under discussion both had two roots, ones for the mass of the thing, the other for the fluidity.  How many other mass nouns is that true for?  Could this be why they are treated differently morphologically?</p>
<p>Great stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Mohini</title>
		<link>http://druidjournal.net/2010/01/29/fire-and-water/comment-page-1/#comment-181964</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very, very thought provoking.
In Indian languages, and in Sanskrit, AGNI is the fire, as one of the creative elements that go into the creation of humans... and APA is the water, another of the elements. 
This is wonderful!

Thank you, Jeff!

PS- Thank you, also, for your marvellous short stories! I loved them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very, very thought provoking.<br />
In Indian languages, and in Sanskrit, AGNI is the fire, as one of the creative elements that go into the creation of humans&#8230; and APA is the water, another of the elements.<br />
This is wonderful!</p>
<p>Thank you, Jeff!</p>
<p>PS- Thank you, also, for your marvellous short stories! I loved them!</p>
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