Comments on: The Tolkien Tarot Spread II: Patterns of Action http://druidjournal.net/2008/02/14/the-tolkien-tarot-spread-ii-patterns-of-action/ Spiritual Guidance by Word, Card, and Star Mon, 14 May 2012 06:53:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mythology Blog: Between Old and New Moons » Mythology, the Mysteries, and Magic Part One http://druidjournal.net/2008/02/14/the-tolkien-tarot-spread-ii-patterns-of-action/comment-page-1/#comment-69794 Mythology Blog: Between Old and New Moons » Mythology, the Mysteries, and Magic Part One Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:19:51 +0000 http://druidjournal.net/2008/02/14/the-tolkien-tarot-spread-ii-patterns-of-action/#comment-69794 [...] wrote a series of posts titled The Tolkien Tarot Spread (the Function of Fiction: part one, Patterns of Action: part two and Fiction and Divination: part three), that took a look at the structure and function of fiction, [...] [...] wrote a series of posts titled The Tolkien Tarot Spread (the Function of Fiction: part one, Patterns of Action: part two and Fiction and Divination: part three), that took a look at the structure and function of fiction, [...]

]]> By: mahud http://druidjournal.net/2008/02/14/the-tolkien-tarot-spread-ii-patterns-of-action/comment-page-1/#comment-67872 mahud Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:46:28 +0000 http://druidjournal.net/2008/02/14/the-tolkien-tarot-spread-ii-patterns-of-action/#comment-67872 You know what, I'm not familar with Lugh's early years. I'm not even sure where to look. I've read about stories of Lugh's birth, which I think comes from fairly recent oral traditions, and that's about it. The impression I got from reading about Lugh turning up at Tara was that he was a mysterious stranger, <em>even to the reader (or listener)</em>. I've been meaning to re-read the myth for a month or so now, but never seem to get around to it. I'll have to make the effort this week sometime :D About the Christian view of an end to all forms of suffering. I kind of lean that way myself, but in a slightly different way. I'll save it for a post rather that go on about it here though. This series has given me a lot to think about , Jeff. One think that amazes me is that how our different ideas and concepts and ways of looking at the world, that at first appear to be disconnected are really connected. I enjoyed the final part of the series. I learned what a tarot spread is for one thing. I'm hoping to buy a deck this weekend, If I can find a place that sells them :) You know what, I’m not familar with Lugh’s early years. I’m not even sure where to look. I’ve read about stories of Lugh’s birth, which I think comes from fairly recent oral traditions, and that’s about it. The impression I got from reading about Lugh turning up at Tara was that he was a mysterious stranger, even to the reader (or listener). I’ve been meaning to re-read the myth for a month or so now, but never seem to get around to it. I’ll have to make the effort this week sometime :D

About the Christian view of an end to all forms of suffering. I kind of lean that way myself, but in a slightly different way. I’ll save it for a post rather that go on about it here though.

This series has given me a lot to think about , Jeff. One think that amazes me is that how our different ideas and concepts and ways of looking at the world, that at first appear to be disconnected are really connected.

I enjoyed the final part of the series. I learned what a tarot spread is for one thing. I’m hoping to buy a deck this weekend, If I can find a place that sells them :)

]]> By: Jeff Lilly http://druidjournal.net/2008/02/14/the-tolkien-tarot-spread-ii-patterns-of-action/comment-page-1/#comment-67737 Jeff Lilly Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:39:13 +0000 http://druidjournal.net/2008/02/14/the-tolkien-tarot-spread-ii-patterns-of-action/#comment-67737 Maybe we aren't looking at the same version of the Lugh myth. :-) The one I have has a big long section about how he was spirited away from Ireland, and brought up outside of Ireland, about the character of his foster father, and everything that Lugh was taught and trained for, and how he returned to Ireland in triumph. To the Tuatha, Lugh's arrival was a complete surprise, but in the version I have, the arrival is shown from Lugh's point of view, and the reader isn't surprised at all. Note that in order to really take Jesus's incarnation as eucatastrophe, you have to take seriously the claims that the Jewish prophets in the Old Testament really were foretelling his coming, which frankly always seemed like a bit of a stretch to me. Not that I'm an expert on the matter. "A kind of alchemical process..." Your description is beautiful itself! I agree... I think the beauty in this disorderly, chaotic mess of life is precisely parallel with the disorder and chaos of nature, which creates emergent beauty and a delicate (yet resilient) order. Just yesterday I had a similar conversation with some Jehovah's Witnesses who dropped by. They talked about how Christianity promises an end to sickness, death, and pain, and I explained that my religion sees these things as essential parts of the natural order. They gave me some literature and left, but they expressed appreciation for talking with someone who had given these matters some thought. :-) Maybe when they come back, I'll give them some of <i>my</i> literature... Maybe we aren’t looking at the same version of the Lugh myth. :-) The one I have has a big long section about how he was spirited away from Ireland, and brought up outside of Ireland, about the character of his foster father, and everything that Lugh was taught and trained for, and how he returned to Ireland in triumph. To the Tuatha, Lugh’s arrival was a complete surprise, but in the version I have, the arrival is shown from Lugh’s point of view, and the reader isn’t surprised at all.

Note that in order to really take Jesus’s incarnation as eucatastrophe, you have to take seriously the claims that the Jewish prophets in the Old Testament really were foretelling his coming, which frankly always seemed like a bit of a stretch to me. Not that I’m an expert on the matter.

“A kind of alchemical process…” Your description is beautiful itself! I agree… I think the beauty in this disorderly, chaotic mess of life is precisely parallel with the disorder and chaos of nature, which creates emergent beauty and a delicate (yet resilient) order.

Just yesterday I had a similar conversation with some Jehovah’s Witnesses who dropped by. They talked about how Christianity promises an end to sickness, death, and pain, and I explained that my religion sees these things as essential parts of the natural order. They gave me some literature and left, but they expressed appreciation for talking with someone who had given these matters some thought. :-) Maybe when they come back, I’ll give them some of my literature…

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