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	<title>Comments on: Hearing the Song of the World</title>
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		<title>By: Mythology Blog: Between Old and New Moons &#187; The Simultaneous Existence of the Higher Self</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mythology Blog: Between Old and New Moons &#187; The Simultaneous Existence of the Higher Self</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a response to a post at Druid Journal, Hearing the Song of the World (incidentally I also reference another of Terri&#8217;s posts: The Distraction of Illusion. haha, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
		<link>http://druidjournal.net/2007/09/01/hearing-the-song-of-the-world/#comment-36390</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine brought my attention to this stunning poem by Robert Graves, &lt;i&gt;The Cool Web&lt;/i&gt;, which conjures up some of the distancing, "cooling" effect of language and contrasts it powerfully with Reality as experienced by a child.  It is a short poem, and I would love to simply post it here, but I'm uneasy about copyright issues.  So I'll just urge you to follow this link:

&lt;a href="http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/poems/298.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Cool Web, by Robert Graves.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine brought my attention to this stunning poem by Robert Graves, <i>The Cool Web</i>, which conjures up some of the distancing, &#8220;cooling&#8221; effect of language and contrasts it powerfully with Reality as experienced by a child.  It is a short poem, and I would love to simply post it here, but I&#8217;m uneasy about copyright issues.  So I&#8217;ll just urge you to follow this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/poems/298.html" rel="nofollow">The Cool Web, by Robert Graves.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
		<link>http://druidjournal.net/2007/09/01/hearing-the-song-of-the-world/#comment-36304</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slade, a thought-provoking comment!

I believe that the message of the story goes beyond the compartmentalizing/dismissing issue, though it certainly includes that.  I think it goes beyond that, to a fundamental kernel of the relationship between mind and reality.  I don't think I can articulate it better than Mahud -- check out his trackback to this post, earlier in this comment stream -- but here's my take regardless...

To be clear:  a word -- name, label, or whatever -- has a certain relationship with Reality.  This relationship hides some parts of Reality, and exposes or emphasizes other parts -- this is unavoidable.  It's also desirable, because the process of simplification makes reasoning possible.  Further, there are certain aspects of Reality that &lt;i&gt;cannot&lt;/i&gt; be expressed with words.

At the same time, a word has relationships with &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; words.  The sum total of the network of relationships between words is a model of Reality.  This model is subset of Reality, but it's also a Creation in its own right!  And thus it is holy in its own way.

When we write a poem or tell a story or name a child, we add to the sub-Creation model, by drawing more Reality into it, or changing its relationship to Reality in some way.  Thus these are holy acts.  But we must not be deluded into thinking that the Model is Reality, or lose our ability to see Reality, to the extent we can.  Both are necessary to be fully human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slade, a thought-provoking comment!</p>
<p>I believe that the message of the story goes beyond the compartmentalizing/dismissing issue, though it certainly includes that.  I think it goes beyond that, to a fundamental kernel of the relationship between mind and reality.  I don&#8217;t think I can articulate it better than Mahud &#8212; check out his trackback to this post, earlier in this comment stream &#8212; but here&#8217;s my take regardless&#8230;</p>
<p>To be clear:  a word &#8212; name, label, or whatever &#8212; has a certain relationship with Reality.  This relationship hides some parts of Reality, and exposes or emphasizes other parts &#8212; this is unavoidable.  It&#8217;s also desirable, because the process of simplification makes reasoning possible.  Further, there are certain aspects of Reality that <i>cannot</i> be expressed with words.</p>
<p>At the same time, a word has relationships with <i>other</i> words.  The sum total of the network of relationships between words is a model of Reality.  This model is subset of Reality, but it&#8217;s also a Creation in its own right!  And thus it is holy in its own way.</p>
<p>When we write a poem or tell a story or name a child, we add to the sub-Creation model, by drawing more Reality into it, or changing its relationship to Reality in some way.  Thus these are holy acts.  But we must not be deluded into thinking that the Model is Reality, or lose our ability to see Reality, to the extent we can.  Both are necessary to be fully human.</p>
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