Comments on: Alban Elued Revival Druid Ritual http://druidjournal.net/2006/09/27/alban-elued-revival-druid-ritual/ Spiritual Guidance by Word, Card, and Star Mon, 14 May 2012 06:53:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jeff Lilly http://druidjournal.net/2006/09/27/alban-elued-revival-druid-ritual/comment-page-1/#comment-310551 Jeff Lilly Thu, 05 May 2011 03:02:49 +0000 http://druidjournal.net/2006/09/27/alban-elued-revival-druid-ritual/#comment-310551 Rua Lupa, regarding gender issues, and plumbing: the issue is rather complex, and sits in that uncomfortable space between human intuition and human reason. Western culture, over thousands of years, has decided that certain attributes are prototypically male and female. To say that these cultural prototypes actually constrain or determine male or female human beings is, as you say, non-egalitarian, harmful, and just plain false. The cultural prototypes are, thankfully, being dismantled, through the hard work and mindfulness of many individuals over the last hundred-plus years. But there is still a long way to go, of course. Anyway, all I'm trying to say is that it still makes sense to speak of, say, a season as having attributes traditionally associated with the Western male prototype; but you are absolutely right to point out that this does not imply anything real about actual men and women, and I'd agree that it's probably counterproductive to maintain it as part of the symbolic system. Rua Lupa, regarding gender issues, and plumbing: the issue is rather complex, and sits in that uncomfortable space between human intuition and human reason. Western culture, over thousands of years, has decided that certain attributes are prototypically male and female. To say that these cultural prototypes actually constrain or determine male or female human beings is, as you say, non-egalitarian, harmful, and just plain false. The cultural prototypes are, thankfully, being dismantled, through the hard work and mindfulness of many individuals over the last hundred-plus years. But there is still a long way to go, of course.

Anyway, all I’m trying to say is that it still makes sense to speak of, say, a season as having attributes traditionally associated with the Western male prototype; but you are absolutely right to point out that this does not imply anything real about actual men and women, and I’d agree that it’s probably counterproductive to maintain it as part of the symbolic system.

]]> By: Rua Lupa http://druidjournal.net/2006/09/27/alban-elued-revival-druid-ritual/comment-page-1/#comment-310540 Rua Lupa Wed, 04 May 2011 21:09:39 +0000 http://druidjournal.net/2006/09/27/alban-elued-revival-druid-ritual/#comment-310540 I like how you were comfortable changing ritual to better suit your true feelings on it and how it was in a family setting, its nice too see family aspects to this path. The changes seem very appropriate. (after reading comments) I am personally not entirely in favor of genderizations of ritual and seasons. I just don't think it is relevant to the point of the whole thing and as a egalitarian I don't understand how anything would be particularly female or male outside of pluming. I like how you were comfortable changing ritual to better suit your true feelings on it and how it was in a family setting, its nice too see family aspects to this path. The changes seem very appropriate. (after reading comments) I am personally not entirely in favor of genderizations of ritual and seasons. I just don’t think it is relevant to the point of the whole thing and as a egalitarian I don’t understand how anything would be particularly female or male outside of pluming.

]]> By: Steve Hansen http://druidjournal.net/2006/09/27/alban-elued-revival-druid-ritual/comment-page-1/#comment-60662 Steve Hansen Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:39:10 +0000 http://druidjournal.net/2006/09/27/alban-elued-revival-druid-ritual/#comment-60662 Goodday Ferred Dan Yr Ailim What do you mean when you say "I am Gaulish"? Where do you derive your name from (i.e. what language)? I am interested in the Gaulish language and all possible aspects of a rvival of the Gaulish language and culture. Please don't hesitate to contact me on the following: Steve Hansen stevepoguemahone@yahoo.com.au Regards from Australia Goodday Ferred Dan Yr Ailim

What do you mean when you say “I am Gaulish”? Where do you derive your name from (i.e. what language)? I am interested in the Gaulish language and all possible aspects of a rvival of the Gaulish language and culture. Please don’t hesitate to contact me on the following:

Steve Hansen
stevepoguemahone@yahoo.com.au

Regards from Australia

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